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    Post by TheCryptKeeper Wed 23 Nov 2016, 3:11 pm

    Do you ever feel like you abuse a certain word, or simply use it too carelessly, freely, or subconsciously? Do you plainly want to learn new words to replace particulars of your vocabulary that you're not too fond of?
    I founded the Word Abusers of Tsempir club (or WAT? for short) so that those of us who fit the description above can have a place to discuss word replacements, new words, or any concepts relating to conversation, written and spoken word, or language in general.


    I'll start us of.

    What's with our generations use of the word 'just'?
    "Oh it's just ..."
    "I just like ..."
    "This is just ..."
    I use just more than like nowadays, I think.

    Any ideas on how to circumvent the use of this word? Or perhaps other words that could be used in its place that don't sound so damned FLAT.
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    Post by lil' poopie boy Wed 23 Nov 2016, 3:50 pm

    I dont use just ever since that waiter in the sunset told us about how its not just water we are ordering.

    I dont find myself needing to use it in that sense. For the record, using the word to describe if something is just, like the adjective of justice, is a great diction and is well spoken I think.

    So like let me write some sentences to fix yours:
    "Oh it's just Duncan, nothing to worry about" - seems like you could just omit the just.
    "Oh it's just peachy out here today" - "oh the weather is absolutely peachy"
    "I just like ..." - "I typically like...", could be omitted
    "This is just ..." - omitted, "This is just! YOU'LL PAY FOR YOUR CRIMES BOY!"

    I think words like absolutely, typically, usually, most-times, stupendously, exactly, precisely, nearly, simply are all good replacements (situationally obviously)

    On a side note, I sometimes say "for sure" or "jeez louis" alot. For me its generally some novel catch phrase that I say a few too many times in too short a time period
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    Post by lil' poopie boy Wed 23 Nov 2016, 3:59 pm

    Actually, I always want to improve my speech. It's probably one of the goals that I've never swayed from at all. I think my written English is at a much higher level that my spoken English, primarily in terms of effectiveness and grace. Which is probably typical among everybody who has done plenty of writing for school or other purposes. Its likely the case for the majority of people in general that have the ability to read and write well.

    So back to my point, this thread is interesting and can potentially be beneficial.

    Also sometimes I say nice too often. I mentioned this to samday, referencing her mom's use of it. Which I may have spoken to rob about already. Anyways, its hilarious how she uses it, so I started to use it satirically. However, it's grown into something I can no longer control, and I fear that at times I sound precisely like the person I am mocking.
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    Post by TheCryptKeeper Wed 23 Nov 2016, 4:42 pm

    I think you might be onto something; simply omitting 'just' in most sentences might be the best way to go. Would probably make phrases sound much more sure and concise.

    The other words you mentioned are good but all situationally variable, because of that they're great but also hard to use. Once you use one of them often enough to the point that it's no longer situational, it's become the new 'just'.
    That's a long term goal I want to set for my spoken word improvement; be able to do things more on the fly, play the tongue like it's a drum. I believe this is core in speaking gracefully, as you mentioned.

    It's hilarious how she uses 'nice'? How does she use it?
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    Post by lil' poopie boy Wed 23 Nov 2016, 5:00 pm

    she uses it sarcastically but also sincerely. Like if you do something like sleep in, like something bad but not super bad, she would be like "nice".
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    Post by TheCryptKeeper Wed 23 Nov 2016, 6:24 pm

    Oh hahahaha. Reminds me of how you told me Brandermeer used to say yikes and it was awful.
    I started saying it in parody and eventually it just became something I say.
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    Post by TheCryptKeeper Tue 29 Nov 2016, 10:41 am

    I realized yesterday that after 'just', 'quite' very well might be my most used word.

    The situation is a little different; I don't so much dislike 'quite', I think it's rather good (or quite good, one might say.) I just want to keep my options open and consider alternatives that might sound smoother in certain instances. 

    replacement ideas?
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    Post by lil' poopie boy Tue 29 Nov 2016, 2:21 pm

    Mad: wow this is quite good ---> DAMN SON DAT SHIT IS MAD DOPE DAWG BOI
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    Post by TheCryptKeeper Wed 30 Nov 2016, 8:42 pm

    I also already use mad a lot, though.
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    Post by Alpha Delfa Wed 30 Nov 2016, 10:11 pm

    loverrboi_626 wrote:Do you ever feel like you abuse a certain word, or simply use it too carelessly, freely, or subconsciously? Do you plainly want to learn new words to replace particulars of your vocabulary that you're not too fond of?
    I founded the Word Abusers of Tsempir club (or WAT? for short) so that those of us who fit the description above can have a place to discuss word replacements, new words, or any concepts relating to conversation, written and spoken word, or language in general.


    I'll start us of.

    What's with our generations use of the word 'just'?
    "Oh it's just ..."
    "I just like ..."
    "This is just ..."
    I use just more than like nowadays, I think.

    Any ideas on how to circumvent the use of this word? Or perhaps other words that could be used in its place that don't sound so damned FLAT.
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    Post by TheCryptKeeper Thu 01 Dec 2016, 12:06 pm

    Okay I had to thumbs that up.

    First, because it was so deliciously self-aware.
    Secondly, because your new profile pic is the funniest shit I've ever seen. I need to go watch that video right now.
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    Post by Vyzor Fri 02 Dec 2016, 2:46 pm

    I most certainly have my own chest of overused words, but I want to inquire something from Sauxuas and loverrboi...

    When did you guys start saying "True"? It was something Toronto kids were saying and we all thought it was super dumb.
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    Post by lil' poopie boy Fri 02 Dec 2016, 6:24 pm

    Not sure when I started using that word regularly and specifically the way I use it today dunc, but I don't think just because toronto kids used the word in a way that didnt really make sense is a reason for me to not use it in a different sense. Because, for the record, I don't think I use "true" the same way as for example my roommate christian.

    He would say it in response to me saying something like "yeah I have this class here, I dont really like this one, had a rough time getting up for class this morning" "true"

    Whereas I feel like i typically use it as a response to being reminded, or someone bringing up something I knew but wasnt considering. "Oh yeah you shouldnt do this" "oh true thanks" or "make sure you check the rune at 2 min" "true true"
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    Post by Vyzor Sat 03 Dec 2016, 3:13 am

    Ya, you're right. You don't use it in the way the Toronto kids do. But ROB ON THE OTHER HAND. COME ON.
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    Post by TheCryptKeeper Sun 04 Dec 2016, 11:44 am

    Yeah it's just a product of being lazy. Like how I used to reply in highschool with "deass" with 100% accuracy. It's something I use to show a person they have my attention, even though they kind of don't lol. It's like polite recognition though not polite enough for me to actually be an active listener, ponderer, and responder.

    I definitely need to use it less, thanks for bringing it up.
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    Post by Vyzor Sun 04 Dec 2016, 4:35 pm

    Hey man, no problem. Anything you guys might notice I use too often?
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    Post by TheCryptKeeper Mon 05 Dec 2016, 2:46 pm

    Probably 'just'

    Other than that, I'm not sure. I'll have to keep an open eye next time we chill.
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    Post by lil' poopie boy Tue 06 Dec 2016, 12:27 am

    Most of my unfortunate mannerisms and whatnot come up when im around people im not comfortable with. Except trent always seems to find something i say that he can mock me about. such as by countering trent saying something by saying "anyways, ..." then go back to theconvo
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    Post by TheCryptKeeper Tue 06 Dec 2016, 11:08 am

    I also feel like sometimes you grasp for ways to express pretty high level concepts when you haven't yet considered fitting words or analogies. It definitely happens to me, too, and probably stems from a lack of experience talking or rationalizing about such things.

    This is something that might be related; I'll be in conversation with someone and then moments or hours later I'll remember the details and think "hmm.. why did I say that when I could have said this?" 
    Like, for example, the other day Jess was asking me what my favourite book was about. I simply said "religion, basically" or something along those lines. When I was thinking about the situation later I realized "wow, that book is about so much more, and I know that. Why didn't I try harder to express what the book is truly about?" I could have sparked an interest or enticed enjoyable conversation.

    Experience x Effort, I suppose.


    also lol@the trent thing
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    Post by lil' poopie boy Tue 06 Dec 2016, 3:36 pm

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    Post by TheCryptKeeper Wed 07 Dec 2016, 3:17 pm

    I said sometimes you have trouble expressing or communicating certain ideas. 

    I can always understand you to a comfortable degree (though while probably imposing my own bias on it in my head,) but people who's head work different from ours or don't have the same experiences probably wouldn't be able to.
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    Post by lil' poopie boy Wed 07 Dec 2016, 6:39 pm

    Oh I see. Yeah I definitely start like saying "yknow" when somebody really shouldn't know. And I like rely on that to explain LOL I did something similar with Dee the other day and she just looked at me blank faced
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    Post by Vyzor Fri 09 Dec 2016, 5:52 pm

    I totally understand the feeling of half-assedly explaining something I like to someone. I might not have been in the mood to come up with a proper description. In the end, they most likely got a very different impression of the thing I was trying express my likeness for
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    Post by TheCryptKeeper Fri 09 Dec 2016, 10:29 pm

    Our words have the ability to shift sight, invoke perspective, and change lives.
    It's a shame (like you mentioned above) that we don't try as hard as we could.

    The thing I fear, thou, in developing my spoken word, is that I might sound snobbish or conceited to people. I'm not down for that.
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    Post by Alpha Delfa Sat 10 Dec 2016, 1:46 pm

    lil' poopie boy wrote:Most of my unfortunate mannerisms and whatnot come up when im around people im not comfortable with. Except trent always seems to find something i say that he can mock me about. such as by countering trent saying something by saying "anyways, ..." then go back to theconvo
    Lol, when I do that I'm honestly trying to be constructive, besides what's the point of mocking somebody if there is no one else around to see it?

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